tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post910241273097087105..comments2023-10-22T03:29:52.892-04:00Comments on There's a Dragon in my Art Room: Food for thought - live presentation vs using technologyPhylhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00482775924810462890noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-27886200973245402112015-04-13T12:49:11.014-04:002015-04-13T12:49:11.014-04:00Thanks so much. Guess what I never shook the bottl...Thanks so much. Guess what I never shook the bottle of ink maybe that's it! Will let you know. enjoy your week, TerryTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04335904696098773929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-58516577093145445872015-04-13T10:19:57.138-04:002015-04-13T10:19:57.138-04:00Terry - 1st of all, you can leave a message on ANY...Terry - 1st of all, you can leave a message on ANY post and I will know. I get email notifications of all comments, so it's never a problem! <br /><br />Hmmm. The India ink shouldn't come off easily - what kind of soap are you using? We do NOT let the soap dry first, and you just want a very light coat. Otherwise the whole thing feels greasy. We've had the best success with a damp brush and little bars of hotel soap. <br /><br />One big thing that makes a difference - if you have areas of the foil that have not been tooled, the ink doesn't stick well (or sticks so hard you can't get it off!). I tell my students that every spot on tooling foil has to get touched with a tool somehow, even if it's just to use a pop stick to smooth it out/flatten it. But it's better to add texture/pattern and don't leave too many big untooled areas. <br /><br />Some other people have used black shoe polish instead of ink; I haven't tried this. And I saw one recently where the whole thing was colored with black Sharpie and then steel-wooded, which seems like a lot of Sharpie-waste to me. I have found that some brands of ink work better than others, plus you need to make sure to shake it up good to get the darkest sediments. Test it out. The Speedball is a nice black, and I think I've also used something called Black Cat, but there are some inks that leave more of a purplish color that isn't the black you want. Hope you can work it out!! Good luck!Phylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482775924810462890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-10349871855228685122015-04-13T09:06:07.260-04:002015-04-13T09:06:07.260-04:00Hi Phyl! I also am old school and prefer hands on ...Hi Phyl! I also am old school and prefer hands on but I do use the smartboard for visuals. I have a question about another post and wasn't sure how I could leave this message but here it goes. I am trying the African masks this week with my 3-5 afterschool class. I have experimented at home and the black india ink comes off very easily with the steel wool. Do I have to let the soap dry first before I put the ink on? I am so appreciative of all your help and lessons and have been a follower of yours for years but have never written to you. You inspire me in all that you do! I am also on my way to retirement and my next chapter at the end of this year! Thanks, TerryTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04335904696098773929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-44859823615284303742015-04-12T11:03:16.792-04:002015-04-12T11:03:16.792-04:00I'm a bit old school, too, Phyll. Doc cameras ...I'm a bit old school, too, Phyll. Doc cameras are used at my school but not in the art room. I teach 2 days a week and it feels cumbersome to carry a doc camera and laptop with me to school and set it up (especially since I ride my bike). I'm totally intrigued though. Been toying with the idea for so long now. Still undecided. I really don't have a problem with teaching demo-style right now and it works for the kids. Maybe that's why I haven't converted. Great discussion!Patty Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00085225715086624172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-33071949456766189562015-04-12T10:39:30.557-04:002015-04-12T10:39:30.557-04:00I used to use the old-fashioned demonstration wher...I used to use the old-fashioned demonstration where everyone gathered around but I find that the kids are much more likely to full around and distract one another where does using the document camera projected onto the SmartBoard everyone gets a clear view and still gets to see what I'm doingArtMusehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874925980760981599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-12941919376457956342015-04-12T10:35:05.850-04:002015-04-12T10:35:05.850-04:00Phyl -- I agree that this is an interesting discus...Phyl -- I agree that this is an interesting discussion.<br /><br />Our school has had Elmos and Smartboards for 7 or 8 years now and I do love the participatory qualities that both afford students when they are working properly. They are both "hands-on" as kids can come up and move objects on the Elmo and manipulate images on the Smartboard. Now that I no longer have my own art room and am traveling to classrooms, it is handy to walk in with my key drive, plug in and have my images projected onto the large screen. <br /><br />That being said, in my own room I would always start by have kids sitting up close on a rug (usually in a circle) where they could observe a demo "live" instead of relying on an image on the screen. This was particularly crucial with primary grades. I still try to have the kids start on the rug (room set up permitting) but my "live demo" is more limited. On the plus side, I have found that, through the years, kids are getting better at attending to what is happening on the screen, probably because teachers use it routinely for almost everything. As might be expected, though, students who have more trouble with listening skills do better when they are closer to you and you can keep them actively engaged. On the "con" side, the colors projected on screen are not always "pure" and when demonstrating on the Elmo you have to move your hand very slowly so the image doesn't appear as a quick blur. The Elmo definitely does not like quick motions!!<br /><br /><br />My biggest complaint, now that I am going from room to room, is that not all projectors are equal. Many seem to be getting fuzzier and the colors appear dull -- definitely not the high- def quality that Kathy describes above. This is particularly annoying when teaching art and you are trying to focus on color value or small details in a piece of art. Two or three of the teachers recently got new projectors (or lenses) and their images are incredibly more clear, but still, nothing like a high-def TV image. One of the challenges of technology in the schools is the ongoing financial burden of keeping up with, not only maintenance, but the constant need to update and replace the obsolete in pursuit of the latest new and better offering. It seems to be producing a very deep and never ending money pit for education!!Christie - Fine Lineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10418114130566362780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-58372078173979691652015-04-11T13:24:58.028-04:002015-04-11T13:24:58.028-04:00Great conversation here! I've gone through al...Great conversation here! I've gone through all the technology and now use almost exclusively the document camera and a large screen TV, all hooked up to my laptop. So I can go from slideshow, to video, to demo very easily. The TV gives a beautiful high-def quality image and I don't have to excuse the poor quality of a projector. All of our classrooms have 60" TVs and document cameras now and the teachers love it!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18243480249574476331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-20327833330744394002015-04-11T12:51:51.362-04:002015-04-11T12:51:51.362-04:00When I would bring it out (the overhead) to demo s...When I would bring it out (the overhead) to demo something liked perspective, the kids would get very excited, because they had never seen one before! They thought it was terrific as I scrolled the acetate, and they loved coming up and demonstrating on it themselves! Imagine what their reaction was when is take out my old slide Carousel projector! Or the opaque projector! Phylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482775924810462890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-67549203314573997712015-04-11T12:49:23.009-04:002015-04-11T12:49:23.009-04:00That's very true, but this old dinosaur (me!) ...That's very true, but this old dinosaur (me!) still prefers the directness of sitting at a table surrounded by students, while they get excited by the magic of seeing/touching/experiencing something new. But I am in NO WAY denouncing the use of the Elmo or other technology, especially if you have large class sizes. It's just not my preferred mode of teaching!Phylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00482775924810462890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-28344777019907369232015-04-11T11:57:28.044-04:002015-04-11T11:57:28.044-04:00I miss those overhead projectors! People do not re...I miss those overhead projectors! People do not realize how awesome they were for us art teachers! I use a document camera now for demos, and I have a ginormous screen, so it is quite helpful. But not like the overhead :( Leslie McReynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10144450145903075506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6650247255320056704.post-65943563557156652752015-04-11T10:46:28.281-04:002015-04-11T10:46:28.281-04:00I own my Elmo because the district wouldn't pu...I own my Elmo because the district wouldn't purchase one for the Art Room. I can't imagine teaching without it. I use it like you describe your overhead projector. I can't imagine my classroom without it!!! It is also a plus for streaming things from the iPad as well. Those short clips take the place of videos especially because VCRs are not being replaced in classrooms when they cease working. This is true for the TV as well. As technology changes, we just change the way we present to our students.Art on my Handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06754122893317896715noreply@blogger.com